THE TOBIAS MATERIALS
The Divine Human Series: "SHOUD
Questions and Answers
Presented at the Crimson Circle
December 8, 2002
Tobias: And so it is, dear friends, that we continue with the energy of our
gathering. We watch what is going on, and we see that so many of you use this
opportunity in the gathering of Shaumbra to let go of things that are no longer
appropriate. You let go on the deep, inner levels. And, they come to the surface
to be released in the days and the weeks after you gather like this.
But, you come here with the passion, and the desire, and the strength to let
all of these things go so that you can truly be free. You can truly be free
of the old identities. You can be free, even as you said in the Shoud, of the
old rules. We had to chuckle as we heard you expressing this. We were waiting
for you to say this – that it was time to let go of the old rules that
you have carried with you for so very long.
There are old rules in the old churches about what is right and wrong. And,
these do nothing but to intensify duality. There are many rules even in your
New Age about what is right and what is wrong. We find that so many who are
awakening on the spiritual path seek out teachers of the New Age and find themselves
confronted with as many rules as they had from the old churches.
So, it is a delight to hear you, Shaumbra, say you are ready to release the
rules. In the Shoud, you say the rules no longer there to serve you. You say
that you are ready to take back ownership of your own kingdom, of your own self.
Yes, indeed, as you mentioned in Shoud, watch yourself today, tomorrow, for
weeks and months to come… watch how old rules pop up and dictate your
life. When they do, recognize them for what they are. Recognize that you do
not need them any more.
You do not need these rules to tell you what is good or bad, right or wrong,
because, in a sense, there is no right or wrong. As we said to you earlier today,
everything you have ever done has served a purpose of helping you to understand
who you are. Everything you have ever done has given you new insight and dimension.
Duality was a wonderful game that you created to help you see both sides of
yourself, to help you see the mirror in order for you to understand who you
were. But, now you are moving into a time and energy of “I Am. I Am Spirit.
I Am God also. I Am the light, and I Am the dark. I Am That I Am.”
You have heard these words before, many times from many others. But, now it
is time to live them, not to have them as some intellectual concept, not to
have them as some banter when you talk to others, but to live it in your life.
“I am spirit. I am divine. I am worthy. I am the beginning. I am the
end. I am always.”
Dear friends, dear friends, this is the New Energy. This is the way of the
New Energy. This is the energy behind the New Earth. But, it can also be the
energy in your life today. “I Am” – no longer trying to find
who you are… no longer having to search for your identity. You've done
so much of that.
It is time to live without the rules that you have imposed on yourself. It
is time to live with worthiness and the understanding that everything you have
ever done has served a purpose. Everything you have ever done has built the
vessel of your soul. Now, it is time to be divine human angels on Earth with
the understanding that I Am… I Am.
With that we would be delighted to answer your questions.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 1: Hi, Tobias. My question is about… well, actually
it’s just kind of a confirmation about interdimensional beings that you’ve
mentioned before. It’s my feeling that these beings can be seen by us,
like in rocks, or trees, or even street lights. And, I was just wondering what
your thoughts on that were?
TOBIAS: This is an excellent question. And, we would first begin by saying
that everything has consciousness… everything… everything. The Earth,
the trees, the leaves on the trees, the animals… yes, even the things
that were created by man – plastic bottles, a chair, the light. Anything
has consciousness. It has a unique vibration. Indeed, as you become more and
more sensitive, as you drop all the old filters, you can see these.
The consciousnesses are very multi-level. For instance, an individual bird
such as a blue jay may have a consciousness of his own. And, then there is the
consciousness of all blue jays, the “blue jay” consciousness. Then
there is another level – the consciousness of birds. Then there is another
level beyond that – the consciousness of animals. Then it incorporates
the consciousness of all of Earth. So, it is very multi-layered and multi-level.
As you open up and become so much more aware of these things, you can talk
to these energies. Yes, indeed. And, Shaumbra, we encourage all of you to talk
to these energies, to communicate with them. Even the energy of a pencil you
hold in your hand has a consciousness of its own, not a spirit like yours. But,
it has a consciousness and you can talk to it.
You can talk to old furniture that has been around for hundreds of years…
and the stories it will tell you of the people who sat in it! (audience laughter)
All of these things are alive and vibrant. As enlightened humans, you can tap
into that. You can have so much fun playing with it.
While you are driving down the road, the stop sign has consciousness. It will
tell you of how many people have run through it. It will tell you of how many
people have cursed it. It will allow you to feel the metallic part of itself.
It will allow you to feel the strength of its message. There are so many layers
Now, sometimes you get a bit confused because you will be going in between
all the different layers and levels. It may be a little confusing at first.
But, as you work with this, as you talk to everything around you, you will be
able to discern what level or what layer you’re on… who you are
communicating with… what you are feeling.
Then this goes far beyond even those things that are right around you. There
are layers and levels of interdimensional consciousness that exist even in this
room, layers with entities who have left the human body but are still walking
the Earth. You call these ghosts. There are some in this room right now. They
are very puzzled by you, by all of you. (audience laughter) They are not sure
why they are here, but there is something that attracted them.
There are indeed the layers of consciousness of the angels that are here. They
love when you talk to them. It makes them shine and it makes them glow.
There are intergalactic levels of consciousness. There are, as you would say,
types of intelligent life forms on the layers of intergalactic levels. We have
said that when you look out into your physical universe, there is not much out
there. But there is much in between on the other layers and levels. There is
not much life form on these other planets in your universe. But, there is life
form on the layers above, and below, and beside.
They are all waiting, by the way, to one day be able to come into this layer
that you call your universe. They are waiting for you to do the work that will
allow the doorway to open so they can enter what you know as your physical universe.
Many of these, what you would call aliens, exist on other interdimensional levels.
As we have said before, they are you from the past. They are you from the past.
In a way, they are the past in terms of time. In a way, it is because you have
seeded those races of what you would call aliens. You have seeded… you
have started those families and those groups. Then you moved on. So, they still
carry so much of your energy.
There is life all around you. If you are quiet and open up that heart of yours,
you will hear all of it. You will soon be able to see all of it. There is consciousness
in a rock, and it will talk to you. When you learn how to communicate with the
rock, then you will understand how to move it without touching it.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 2: Tobias, as a gay member of Shaumbra, I just would
like to thank you for your compassionate words and understanding. And, I just
wish that all gays, lesbians, and bisexuals had that compassion and understanding.
TOBIAS: And, we thank you for your journey, for what you have endured in your
life. We ask for all Shaumbra who are here now to honor you with applause for
what you have done. (audience applauds) Some day, some day the humans will look
back on the days when there was the hard division between male and female, man
and woman, and they will wonder why that ever happened. Some day they will look
back at the true warriors of the cause of bringing these energies together,
the ones like you, the ones who are in your society now, enduring some in the
difficulties, enduring the wrath of the ones who call themselves religious.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 3: Tobias, since the Creator Series, you have told us
that if we choose to create something, we can. Why aren’t we? (audience
TOBIAS: Rules! Your rules! Your self-worth! All of these issues that we speak
to you about over and over again… old issues from past lives that are
still stuck, past lives when you gave the vows of poverty… rules that
you give yourself now in his lifetime!
Do you know, dear friends, that your greatest fear is your ability to create?
You worry that, left without walls, left without rules, and restrictions, and
barriers, and filters, that you might create something ugly, or terrible. You
think back to the days before you ever came to Earth when you were creating
the physical universe, when there were great wars and great battles. And, you
said to yourself, “I will NEVER express my power in that way again!”
And, here you are, standing before us, asking why you can't create?
Do you not see for yourself why you cannot create? Do you not see all of the
filters and the barriers you have placed around yourself, the fear of being
a creator? Now, let those go and create. Let those go and create whatever your
Don't worry about creating too much for yourself. Don't worry that if you create
abundance for yourself that it will take away from others. It will not. There
is plenty for everyone. It is all a matter of self-worth. It all comes down
to your worthiness.
You have the ability to create universes. Now, bring that ability and that
power to Earth, and fear not who you are. “I Am.” Remember the “I
Also you have to practice creation before anything will happen. We see humans
who sit, waiting, waiting to create, but not expressing. It will not happen
unless you take the first step. Abundance begins when you begin. Health begins
when you begin. Relationships, and all of these other things that humans worry
about… it begins when you begin. Take that magic wand that you have and
do it. So be it! You are a creator!
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 4: I’m sure glad you said that. I feel like I’m
breaking the rules, and it’s time for me to create. I go by the name of
Linda Lee, and I am here to help humanity. And, I can be contacted at firstname.lastname@example.org.
And, I thank you so much for my journey. And, I’m only too happy to help
others on theirs.
TOBIAS: Indeed. And, by the changes you have done within yourself, you are
helping humanity. By making yourself available and stating that you are a teacher,
you are ready to guide others who come to you. You make such a difference, just
in that. Indeed, for all of you, for all of you, there is but one thing to teach
the others – that they are God also. They will be taught in many different
ways, depending on the person who comes to you. But, indeed, make yourself available.
State that you are a teacher. Let your own soul hear that. State that you are
ready for whatever comes you way. And, it will.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 5: Hi. First, I want to say, “Thank you, Tobias…
thank you, Geoff… thank you Linda.” And, part of this “thank
you” is because roughly 10-12 years ago I got scared of getting up in
front of people and talking. And, here I am! And, I think that Spirit was pushing
me hard, or else I wouldn’t be here right now. Oh, what do I want to say?
You know, when I was a kid, I was raised Roman Catholic, and the very first
catechism question is, “Where is God?” And, God is everywhere. So,
in the 80’s I read “I am God,” and it was pretty easy to embrace
that. And, then, somewhere along the way I found out that Catholic meant “universal.”
Then it was like, “Oh, I’m not Roman Catholic. I’m just Catholic.”
And, here I am. And, I am stuck. There is this… Tobias, would you know
what I meant if I said “the letter?” Would you, Tobias, know what
I meant if I referred to “the letter?” It’s something I wrote
that seems to be keeping me stuck. But, anyway, I don’t feel I’m
dealing with lack of self-worth, but two “misses” – “mis”-understanding
and “mis”-trust. Comment for me, please, because I want to help
the largest number for the highest good. But, I’m stuck.
TOBIAS: We know that so many of you are feeling stuck right now. Part of it
is that there are so many old issues that are still coming up. And, as we have
said before, it will get easier in these months ahead. It will get easier. Part
of the other thing is what you stated to yourselves in Shoud today – that
there are so many old rules that YOU have placed there that are in the way.
It is time to let these go. You let them go by observing and seeing what these
old rules were, and then releasing them.
And, dear friends, we add to you, to the one who asked this question here –
how to say – it is not for any of you to change, or to save the world.
We know that so many of you in the greatest love from your heart say, “I
am here to help humanity, to save humanity.” But, they have nothing to
be saved from!
They are enjoying their game. (audience laughter) They are having delight and
fun with the illnesses in their body, and with the problems they are going through
with their spouses and their friends. They’re having a delightful time
with the battles they are having in their own mind.
Do you understand that you came from there also? You went through all these
experiences. And, until you were ready for your awakening, this was part of
So, we remind all of you that you are teachers, but they will come to you.
They will come to you when it is appropriate. There is nothing to go out to
preach others. You do not need to be one who stands on the soapbox and preaches
rules. You do not need to be telling others what Tobias says. You need to be
telling them what your own heart says.
For you in particular who asked the question, there are – how to say
– a few personal issues that would be best not covered here right now.
So, we are going to ask you to speak with Cauldre afterwards. We like volunteering
him! (audience laughter) Make a time for discussion with him. He’s asking
us what time he possibly has, but we know he will find it. It would be best
not to discuss this rather personal subject. But, we thank you for the opportunity
to talk about these other things.
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 6: Hi, Tobias. I’m Jim. Thank you for being here
and passing on this beautiful enlightenment, this information that you give
to us that is changing our lives, and by changing our lives I feel… or
changing my consciousness, I feel like I’m changing, not only my life,
but those around me from my perception. One of the questions I have for you
is – do we choose the pain in our lives to change ourselves?
TOBIAS: Indeed, you do, for Spirit never pulls the strings, never pulls the
strings. The angels never pull the strings. Every experience that you set up
you do so yourself. Now, the difficulty is that you do not always see how you
set these things up. It is done on other levels within you that you do not recognize
on your conscious level. You give yourself all types of experience.
In the past you set up experiences based on your perception of karma, based
on your perception of a law of balances. Now, so many of you have moved past
that. Now, you understand there is no karma. But, indeed, everything is set
by you as part of your growth and part of your understanding.
Now, we're in a time of transition here where there's no need for lessons.
There's no need to go through pain and difficulty. You are transitioning from
your own work now to being there for others, when it is appropriate for them
to come to you, for being there in service. We have talked about this before
when we said, “It is not about you any more.” There are things that
will come into your life where you are there to be the guide and the facilitator
for others. But, you are also setting that up. You are setting yourself in a
place to be the teacher for them.
In answer to your question – Spirit and the angels never, never create
the scenario for you. All of it comes from within. And, when you look at it
like that, you will come to a better understanding of how you are truly a creator.
LINDA: That would have been the last question.
TOBIAS: One more would be appropriate. (audience laughter)
QUESTION FROM SHAUMBRA 7: Thanks for all you do, Tobias, and everybody. I would
like to get rid of the pain. I would like to… I want it gone! I don’t
care what my journey is. I want it gone. How do I do that? (audience laughter
TOBIAS: We love how you put this so simply! (more laughter) And, indeed –
how do we say this – understand, as difficult as it may be, understand
that this pain that you carry, first of all, is just an illusion. It doesn't
feel that way. But, indeed, it is just an illusion. Understand that you can
demand that this pain be gone. You can insist on it. YOU are the creator. You
are the ruler of your own kingdom. This pain is there because of old issues,
indeed. But, you are still allowing it to reside within you.
You can remove the pain. Tell it to be gone. And, if it comes back, it is just
testing you to see how strong you are. You are just testing yourself to see
how strong you are. If it comes back, demand that it be gone again. Demand that
Now, this is a good issue, Shaumbra, because so often when you change your
mind set, when you release things, so often they do come back because it is
a self-test. It is a way of you asking yourself if you were truly serious about
who you are and what you are doing. Sometimes you have to repeat this over and
over until, at the soul level you understand, and you can hear your own voice,
saying “I Am.” So, it is best with this pain to tell it it no longer
has a place in your life, to tell it to be gone. You are the creator. You are
the ruler of your own kingdom.
And, so it is, dear friends, that we come to this wonderful time of holidays
and Christmas on Earth. We come to this time of the completion of the grids.
It is a time for you to enjoy these next few weeks, these last remaining weeks
with the grid the way it was, understanding that you now have access to all
of your divinity. But, it is up you to pull it in, to own it, and to use it.
We love this time of year on Earth, for the energies are so wonderful. There
is so much opening of the heart. There is so much loving and receiving. Yes,
indeed, there is stress. And, there will be stress around, as we mentioned at
the beginning of our discussion today, the stress that is caused by these changes
that are going on. But, we will be with you as you enjoy this holiday season
with the ones that you love, and the ones that you share your life with. We
will be there right beside you.
Indeed, you are never alone.
And so it is!
Tobias of the Crimson Council is presented by Geoffrey Hoppe, aka "Cauldre,"
Golden, Colorado. The story of Tobias, from the biblical Book of Tobit, can
be found on the Crimson Circle web site at www.crimsoncircle.com. The Tobias
Materials have been offered free of charge to lightworkers and Shaumbra around
the world since August 1999, the time when Tobias said humanity moved past the
potential of destruction and into the New Energy.
The Crimson Circle is a global network of human angels who are among the
first to transition into the New Energy. As they experience the joys and challenges
of the ascension status, they help other humans on their journeys through sharing,
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The Crimson Circle meets monthly in the Denver, Colorado area where Tobias
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and the others of the celestial Crimson Council are actually channeling the
humans. According to Tobias, they are reading our energies and translating our
own information back to us so we can see it from the outside, while experiencing
it on the inside. The "Shoud" is the portion of the channeling where
Tobias steps aside and the energy of the humans is channeled directly by Geoffrey
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The purpose of the Crimson Circle is to serve as human guides and teachers
to those walking the path of inner spiritual awakening. This is not an evangelical
mission. Rather, the inner light will guide people to your doorstep for your
compassion and care. You will know what to do and teach in that moment, when
the unique and precious human who is about to embark on the journey of the Bridge
of Swords comes to you.
If you are reading this and feel a sense of truth and connection, you are
indeed Shaumbra. You are a teacher and a human guide. Allow the seed of divinity
to blossom within you in this moment and for all times to come. You are never
alone, for there is family around the world and angels in the realms around
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